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Poster: ridetheory Date: May 2, 2004 10:13am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: A new parody movie?

Well, I wouldn't make that parody film because it's exactly the same logical fallacy in reverse. Yes, Hitler was a vegetarian, but that doesn't mean that vegetarianism is bad, it only means that a bad person was a vegetarian.

Nor does showing a bunch of nice people who are vegetarians prove that it is good.

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Poster: summerseve Date: May 2, 2004 11:43am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: A new parody movie?

Yeah, reminds me of those "public service announcements" where the latest lame sitcom star tells you how important it is to read to your kids, don't drink & drive, don't do drugs, buckle up, etc. So annoying, they almost make me want to do the opposite...

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Poster: Hoss Firooznia Date: May 3, 2004 4:38am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: A new parody movie?

Hi folks, I'm the creator of the "Everyone's doing it..." spot.

Wow. Kudos to all on your sharp critical thinking skills; you're absolutely right -- just because famous people X, Y, and Z have done something doesn't mean you should do it too! Yay for skepticism! :-)

The idea of the ad was to debunk the popular myth that vegetarians are either fringe kooks, or anemic weaklings -- by featuring respected and/or buff vegetarians (e.g., olympian Carl Lewis). I'm also suggesting, indirectly, that being kind to animals is a good thing to do, because many thoughtful humanitarians (e.g., Albert Schweitzer, Susan B. Anthony) have made the conscious decision to do so. This is an argument from testimonial evidence, which can have merit if we have reason to believe the testimony comes from a credible source.

As to parodies: I'm not personally opposed to the idea, but I included the NoDerivs provision simply because I'm not sure the various narrators involved (about six in all) would consent to it. But I'd certainly be interested to see if someone could come up with a significant list of evil and/or despicable people who chose a vegetarian diet for humanitarian reasons.

Also, for the record, Hitler wasn't a vegetarian. That's another myth. See:

http://www.foodrevolution.org/askjohn/47.htm
http://www.vegsource.com/berry/hitler.html

Finally, thanks for all the helpful feedback! :-)

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Poster: summerseve Date: May 3, 2004 8:03am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: A new parody movie?

> It would be a perfectly legitimate use of the
> material on this site, and of your free speech
> rights.

Sorry I misspoke there. I didn't bother to look at the license.

For the record, I am a vegetarian AND a kook, but one probably shouldn't generalize from that...